Friday, September 30, 2005
You Know You Are Mormophobic When...
You Know You May Be Mormophobic When:
1. You realize that killing the prophet didn’t stop it; outlawing polygamy didn’t stop it; that fake salamander deal didn’t even put a dent in it. The only thing left to do is PANIC, and shotgun blast it with everything you can think of, no matter how pathetic the argument, after all, at least the faithless will listen, right?
2. It just cuts you to the core to think of the millions of Mormons who pay all that tithing, donate all those hours of time and labor, and sacrifice so much for their religion. How could anybody be so stupid?
3. You know better than to believe in a self proclaimed, money-digging sexually deviate pervert, and you don’t think anybody else should either.
4. You love to attack the weakness of its leaders, because you believe they should be absolutely perfect.
5. Your testimony crumbled, because you built it on the dust of steel (non-stainless of course), elephants, and horses, and everybody else is just plain silly for believing in faith and obedience, like the bible teaches. Intellectual knowledge is so much better, and you are so much smarter than everyone else.
6. You just love telling others what they believe according to your “research”. You love reading other peoples’ minds.
7. You like to impress people by using the same lame arguments and augmenting them with philosophical fluff, when in reality, the only thing that is impressive is your vocabulary.
8. It makes you feel so superior to make fun of people for their heartfelt religious convictions. You love name calling, and you have an unnatural attraction for sheep and robots.
9. You couldn’t cut it as a Mormon, because of your weakness, so you gave up, blamed it on the hierarchy, and want to make sure you get even.
10. Because of your own experience, you’ve concluded that God just doesn’t influence people through the Holy Ghost, He doesn’t answer anyone’s prayers, and it is just impossible to know of spiritual things. Therefore, no one else can have these experiences, because since you haven’t experienced them, they do not exist.
Fort Worth, Texas
Thursday, September 29, 2005
GIRLS TELL ALL
I have a headache and it is making me cranky!
The temperature in my first class today was a billion gazillion degrees ... blegh!
In my class there was a couple sitting in front of me holding hands ... we made fun of them :)
I just saw someone with very alluring eyes ... kind of a greyish greenish colour.I don't wanna go to work tonight.
I saw someone with bride of frankenstein hair today! It was rather large. I have a burrito for lunch! Jenny, a Mormon (bleeghh!) told me her dad is sodomizing her. I'm like, sodomizing? Girl, you gotta get out! What is it with these Mormons anyways? I remember Cathy's friend had a similar problem.
Okay, gotta go now ... have a good one!
Hello Mr. Patu,
The Temple recomend interviews in Chattanooga, during the 1980's (I don't know if they still do this), included asking if you ever used a tanning bed, drank caffeinated drinks, used contraceptives during marital relations, or engaged in any unholy and deviant sexual practices with your spouse (oral or petting, anal had not even been imagined as a possibility).
I am no longer a True Believing Mormon, and I resent the church for a lot of the crap they made me suffer, but still can't get the guilt and brain washing out of my mind! - 12/27/2004 - anon
I was taught masturbating was evil, Holy shit, that is like saying breathing or eating is evil. Masturbating is the saftest sex possible, and has many health benefits.
I had to be weighed down in guilt thru my teenage years because I couldn't quite think on my own. I remember every week I was like "oh shit now I have to go and confess my sexual sins to Mr. Suit and Tie godly man" (always man of course, and 99% of the time white too). What stress that I didn't need at that time. now I know better.
I should pretend that I need organized religion to be happy and go confess to a bishop, I would tell him that I stick telephones up my ass while giving oral to my friends just for fun just to see his damn reaction. ha ha.
When I was a True Believing Mormon, a bishop asked me during an interview for a church calling.."Do you know it is a sin to with-hold sex from your husband?" I told him-it wasn't a problem for me(I never with-hold).. Needless to say, my husband was furious. We just chalked this experience up to another "man" that wasn't acting accordingly.. What's up with these freaks asking for such details anyway?
-- Name withheld
Well, guess my story is very similar (but with some severe exceptions) to most of yours. Upon meeting my future-wife, she gave up her virginity 2 months into the dating, but after 8 months of TORRID sex, she decided it was "ungodly" and cut me off completely. Well, long story short, 14 months (and NO sex) later, we're getting married in the LA temple. Should put the end to church interference in our bedroom, right?
WRONG!!! About a year after our wedding, Wifey hears an audio tape by a GA condemning oral sex as "animalistic and unholy" and decides she wants to stop the practice. Keep in mind her physiology is such that she cannot achieve orgasm ANY other way than thru oral. Well, no amount of cajoling on my part will change her mind, until she talks to our Bishop. Our bishop at that time (a truly caring, compassionate and open-minded man by morg standards) tells her not to worry and that if she & I both want to do something in the bedroom that doesn't violate our temple covenants, why not?
My wife's guilt flies out the window, and our marriage bed becomes wonderful again. Eventually we delve into anal, toys, and, incredibly enough, videos, as well. She enjoys it all immensely.
Fast forward to 5 years ago. We leave the church. Various reasons too numerous to detail in this posting. Suffice to say, despite what TBM's might say, we did NOT leave the church specifically so we could go against it's standards. But that's what we wound up doing.
About 3 years ago a former co-worker of mine (female) casually informs me & my wife that she is bisexual. You can guess what happened. Things were wonderful for us all, and we were even talking about the 3 of us growing old together, when suddenly, my wife gets another attack of morg-guilt.
Now, she's cut off her sexual relationship with our friend (but oddly, urges me to continue it), and has even started reading the BOM again and has attended 3 sacrament meetings since May. Of course, our "current Bishop" (never met the man, and if I do, I'll probably rip off his head and shit down his neck) has sternly cautioned her about the "devilishness" of believing that she's bisexual and how dare she even THINK she could be happy in such an arrangement!?!?!? ("Wickedness never was happiness." Not unless we TELL you so, anyway.)
Interesting isn't it, that the church which did (and still does, in its more secret doctrine) espouse - pardon my pun- polygamy, casts such sharp condemnation on the same kind of relationship between 3 consenting adults. Why, because all the partners are equals? Because there's a little muffin-bumping going on? Why, exactly? Seem a tad hypocritical and double-standardish to anyone out there?
So, here I am looking at possibly losing my wife of 11 years, my best friend, my confidant, my lover, because of misplaced morg-guilt, which cannot even overlook the inconsistencies and hypocricies of LDS doctrine!! How long does it take to deprogram someone from the morg-washing????
- Paul Coyle,
Send us your Mormon sex experiences and we will post them!!!
THE AVERAGE UNPUBLISHED FEMALE WRITER IS ALSO A COKED-UP WHORE...
Wednesday, September 28, 2005
(c) Texe Marrs 2003
Satan loves to debauch religious charlatans. A headline in The Houston Chronicle newspaper, page one of its May 9, 1999 issue, trumpeted, "Mormons Caught up in Wave of Pedophile Accusations." In fact, Power of Prophecy has received startling information about satanic rituals and pedophile Mormon elders in the so-called Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (LDS). No Wonder! Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, Mormon founders, took numerous wives, and Smith was an occultist and sexual pervert of the highest order, as even many of his biographers confess.
UTAH AFTER HOURS:
General Authority Within The Mormon Church Admits Ritual Child Abuse PART 1
We're having a lot of fun at Join At Your Own Risk but the following material is deadly serious. These are the words of an extremely high ranking member of the Mormon Church and he is deeply upset about sixty interviews he has conducted with people who have been the victim of ritual abuse within the setting of the Mormon Church. For more click here or read the following -- you can also scroll down to see scans of the original memo he produced:
|Date:||July 19, 1990|
|To:||Strengthening Church Members Committee|
|From:||Bishop Glenn L. Pace|
|Subject:||Ritualistic Child Abuse|
Pursuant to the Committee's request, I am writing this memorandum to pass along what I have learned about ritualistic child abuse. Hopefully, it will be of some value to you as you continue to monitor the problem. You have already received the LDS Social Services report on satanism dated May 24, 1989, a report from Brent Ward, and a memorandum from myself dated October 20, 1989 in response to Brother Ward's report. Therefore, I will limit this writing to information not contained in those papers.
I have met with sixty victims. That number could be twice or three times as many if I did not discipline myself to only one meeting per week. I have not wanted my involvement with this issue to become a handicap in fulfilling my assigned responsibilities. On the other hand, I felt someone needed to pay the price to obtain an intellectual and spiritual conviction as to the seriousness of this problem within the Church.
Of the sixty victims with whom I have met, fifty-three are female and seven are male. Eight are children. The abuse occurred in the following places: Utah (37), Idaho (3), California (4), Mexico (2), and other places (14). Fifty-three victims are currently living in the State of Utah. All sixty individuals are members of the Church. Forty-five victims allege witnessing and/or participating in human sacrifice. The majority were abused by relatives, often their parents. All have developed psychological problems and most have been diagnosed as having multiple personality disorder or some other form of dissociative disorder.
Ritualistic child abuse is the most hideous of all child abuse. The basic objective is premeditated--to systematically and methodically torture and terrorize children until they are forced to dissociate. The torture is not a consequence of the loss of temper, but the execution of well-planned, well-thought out rituals often performed by close relatives. The only escape for the children is to dissociate. They will develop a new personality to enable them to endure various forms of abuse. When the episode is over, the core personality is again in control and the individual is not conscious of what happened. Dissociation also serves the purposes of the occult because the children have no day-to-day memory of the atrocities. They go through adolescence and early adulthood with no active memory of what is taking place. Oftentimes they continue in rituals through their teens and early twenties, unaware of their involvement. Many individuals with whom I have spoken have served missions and it has not been until later that they begin to remember. One individual has memories of participating in rituals while serving as a full-time missionary.
The victims lead relatively normal lives, but the memories are locked up in a compartment in their minds and surface in various ways. They don't know how to cope with the emotions because they can't find the source. As they become adults and move into another environment, something triggers the memories and, consequently, flashbacks and/or nightmares occur. One day they will have been living a normal life and the next they will be in a mental hospital in a fetal position. The memories of their early childhood are recalled in so much detail that they once again feel the pain that caused the dissociation in the first place.
There are two reasons why adults can remember with such detail events that happened in their past: First, the terror they experienced was so stark that it was indelibly placed in their mind. Second, the memory was compartmentalized in a certain portion of the mind and was not subjected to the dilution of experiences of ensuing years. When it is tapped, it is as fresh as if it happened yesterday.
The memories seem to come in layers. For example, the first memory might be of incest; then they remember robes and candles; next they realize that their father or mother or both were present when they were being abused. Another layer will be the memory of seeing other people hurt and even killed. Then they remember having seen babies killed. Another layer is realizing that they participated in the sacrifices. One of the most painful memories may be that they even sacrificed their own baby. With each layer of memory comes another set of problems with which they must deal.
Some have said that the witnesses to this type of treatment cannot be trusted because of the victim's unstable condition and because practically all of them have some kind of dissociative disorder; in fact, the stories are so bizarre as to raise serious credibility questions. The irony is that one of the objectives of the occult is to create multiple personalities within the children in order to keep the "secrets." They live in society without society having any idea that something is wrong since the children and teenagers don't even realize there is another life occurring in darkness and in secret. However, when sixty witnesses testify to the same type of torture and murder, it becomes impossible for me, personally, not to believe them.
I mention multiple personalities because the spiritual healing which must take place in the lives of these victims cannot happen without their priesthood leaders understanding something about it.
The spiritual indoctrination which takes place during the physical abuse is one of the most difficult to overcome. In addition to experiencing stark terror and pain, the children are also instructed in satanic doctrine. Everything is completely reversed: white is black, black is white, good is bad, bad is good, Satan is going to rule during the Millennium.
Children are put in a situation where they believe they are going to die--such as being buried alive or being placed in a plastic bag and immersed in water. Prior to doing so, the abuser tells the child to pray to Jesus to see if He will save her. Imagine a seven year old girl, having been told she is going to die, praying to Jesus to save her and nothing happens--then at the last moment she is rescued, but the person saving her is a representative of Satan. He uses this experience to convince her that the only person who really cares about her is Satan, she is Satan's child and she might as well become loyal to him.
Just before or shortly after their baptism into the Church, children are baptized by blood into the satanic order which is meant to cancel out their baptism into the Church. They will be asked if they understand or have ever felt the Holy Ghost. When they reply that they have, they will be reminded of the horrible things they have participated in and will be told that they have become a son (or daughter) of perdition and, therefore, have no chance of being saved or loved by our Father in heaven or Jesus.
All of this indoctrination takes place with whichever personality has immerged to endure the physical, mental, and spiritual pain. Consequently, there develops within each of these individuals the makings of what I call a civil war. As the memories begin to surface, there are personalities who feel they have given themselves to Satan, and there is no hope for forgiveness. The core person is an active member of the Church, often with a temple recommend. As integration takes place, the civil war begins. Sometimes, in an interview, personalities of the dark side have come out. They are petrified or perhaps full of hate for me and what I represent. Eventually those personalities need to be dealt with spiritually and psychologically.
Most victims are suicidal. They have been brainwashed with drugs, hypnosis, and other means to become suicidal as soon as they start to tell the secrets. They have been threatened all of their lives that if they don't do what they are told their brother or sister will die, their parents will die, their house will be burned, or they themselves will be killed. They have every reason to believe it since they have seen people killed. They believe they might as well kill themselves instead of wait for the occult to do it. Some personalities feel it is the right thing to do.
The purpose of this detail is to stress the complexity of psychological and spiritual therapy for these individuals. Our priesthood leaders, when faced with such cases, are understandably at a loss of how to respond. Orthodox counsel is completely ineffective. For example, some victims have been told that this all happened in their past and that they should put it behind them and get on with their lives. This is just not possible. Part of the spiritual therapy necessary is for priesthood leaders to assist with the conversion process of the personalities who have been indoctrinated into satanism. Victims must integrate their personalities so that they can function as whole persons and be able to deal with their problems and then get on with their lives. Often, some of the parts will begin to act out--perhaps promiscuously--and a good intentioned priesthood leader, following the General Handbook of Instructions, will disfellowship or excommunicate an individual. All this does is reinforce the satanic indoctrination of the victims that they are no good.
I'm sorry to say that many of the victims have had their first flashbacks while attending the temple for the first time. The occult along the Wasatch Front uses the doctrine of the Church to their advantage. For example, the verbiage and gestures are used in a ritualistic ceremony in a very debased and often bloody manner. When the victim goes to the temple and hears the exact words, horrible memories are triggered. We have recently been disturbed with members of the Church who have talked about the temple ceremony. Compared to what is happening in the occult along the Wasatch Front, these are very minor infractions. The perpetrators are also living a dual life. Many are temple recommend holders. This leads to another reason why the Church needs to consider the seriousness of these problems. In affect, the Church is being used.
I go out of my way to not let the victims give me the names of the perpetrators. I have told them that my responsibility is to help them with spiritual healing and that the names of perpetrators should be given to therapists and law enforcement officers. However, they have told me the positions in the Church of members who are perpetrators. Among others, there are Young Women leaders, Young Men leaders, bishops, a patriarch, a stake president, temple workers, and members of the Tabernacle Choir. These accusations are not coming from individuals who think they recognized someone, but from those who have been abused by people they know, in many cases their own family members.
Whatever the form of abuse our main concern is for the victims, but there are legal ramifications. We are disturbed to receive reports that a scoutmaster has abused the boys in his troop. It is not difficult to imagine what would happen if we learn that a bishop or stake president has participated in the abominations of ritualistic child abuse. Not only do some of the perpetrators represent a cross section of the Mormon culture, but sometimes the abuse has taken place in our own meetinghouses.
I don't pretend to know how prevalent the problem is. All I know is that I have met with 60 victims. Assuming each one comes from a coven of 13, we are talking about the involvement of 800 or so right here on the Wasatch Front. Obviously, I have only seen those coming forth to get help. They are in their twenties and thirties for the most part. I can only assume that it is expanding geometrically and am horrified the numbers represented by the generation who are now children and teenagers.
Another reason for concern is that there are several doctrinal issues that need to be resolved. The Church and society in general are very skeptical as to whether the occult and its activities do exist. There is no First Presidency statement relative to some of the doctrinal issues: What does a priesthood leader tell individuals who come forward and say that they have participated in these rituals--which may include human sacrifice? Should they have a temple recommend? Will they ever be forgiven? There are questions regarding free agency and accountability. Is a person who has been raised in an occult from infancy accountable for things that take place in a dissociated state, even though those acts were committed after the age of eight? I have formed my own opinions to these questions and have done the best I can. However, I don't have the mantle to make these doctrinal and policy decisions. I have relied on the mantle of a bishop regarding discernment and being a common judge.
The few priesthood leaders who have had to face these issues are crying out for help because they don't want to give their own opinions and yet there is no place to go for an answer. A bishop will go to his stake president who says he doesn't believe it is happening and that the member is just crazy. The stake president might go to an Area Presidency who will react in a similar way. Most people are afraid to surface it to the First Presidency for fear of getting the same reaction and don't want to appear crazy themselves for asking the question.
I hope you will excuse me if I am being presumptuous, but I am concluding this paper with scriptures I feel support my belief that these activities are real and cannot be ignored.
The things I have been writing about go back to Cain and Abel:
And Satan said unto Cain: Swear unto me by thy throat, and if thou tell it thou shalt die; and swear thy brethren by their heads, and by the living God, that they tell it not; for if they tell it, they shall surely die; and this that thy father may not know it; and this day I will deliver thy brother Abel into thine hands.
And Satan sware unto Cain that he would do according to his commands. And all these things were done in secret.
And Cain said: Truly I am Mahan, the master of this great secret, that I may murder and get gain. Wherefore Cain was called Master Mahan, and he gloried in his wickedness. (Moses 5:29-31.)
All of the experiences I have heard about have to do with secrecy, swearing not to tell, murdering to get gain and power:
Wherefore Lamech, being angry, slew him, not like unto Cain, his brother Abel, for the sake of getting gain, but he slew him for the oath's sake.
For, from the days of Cain, there was a secret combination, and their works were in the dark, and they knew every man his brother. (Moses 5:50-51.)
And then in Moses 6:15 we learn that as people began to fill the earth, so did these secret works:
And the children of men were numerous upon all the face of the land. And in those days Satan had great dominion among men, and raged in their hearts; and from thenceforth came wars and bloodshed; and a man's hand was against his own brother, in administering death, because of secret works, seeking for power.
The Book of Mormon is replete with descriptions of these secret murderous combinations as well as prophecies that they will always be with us:
And our spirits must have become like unto him, and we become devils, angels to a devil, to be shut out from the presence of our God, and to remain with the father of lies, in misery, like unto himself; yea, to that being who beguiled out first parents, who transformeth himself nigh unto an angel of light, and stirreth up the children of men unto secret combinations of murder and all manner of secret works of darkness. (2 Nephi 9:9.)
Wherefore, for this cause, that my covenants may be fulfilled which I have made unto the children of men, that I will do unto them while they are in the flesh, I must needs destroy the secret works of darkness, and of murders, and of abominations. (2 Nephi 10:15.)
And there are also secret combinations, even as in times of old, according to the combinations of the devil, for he is the founder of all these things; yea, the founder of murder, and works of darkness; yea, and he leadeth them by the neck with a flaxen cord, until he bindeth them with his strong cords forever. (2 Nephi 26:22.)
In Alma, we find that the Lord commanded some of the prophets not to write any of the secret works, especially of the secret oaths, so that they would not become known by generations to follow, but that they might be warned that they do exist:
And now, I will speak unto you concerning those twenty-four plates, that ye keep them, that the mysteries and the works of darkness, and their secret works, or the secret works of those people who have been destroyed, may be made manifest unto this people; yea, all their murders, and robbings, and their plunderings, and all their wickedness and abominations, may be made manifest unto this people; yea, and that ye preserve these interpreters. . . .
I will bring forth out of darkness unto light all their secret works and their abominations; and except they repent I will destroy them from off the face of the earth; and I will bring to light all their secrets and abominations, unto every nation that shall hereafter possess the land.
And now, my son, we see that they did not repent; therefore they have been destroyed, and thus far the word of God has been fulfilled; yea, their secret abominations have been brought out of darkness and made known unto us.
And now, my son, I command you that ye retain all their oaths,, and their covenants, and their agreements in their secret abominations; yea, and all their signs and their wonders ye shall keep from this people, that they know them not, lest peradventure they should fall into darkness also and be destroyed.
For behold, there is a curse upon all this land, that destruction shall come upon all those workers of darkness, according to the power of God, when they are fully ripe; therefore I desire that this people might be destroyed. (Alma 37:21, 25-28.)
In Helaman, the name of Gadianton is introduced and becomes descriptive throughout the Book of Mormon relative to the secret combinations.
But behold, Kishkumen, who had murdered Pahoran, did lay wait to destroy Helaman also; and he was upheld by his band, who had entered into a covenant that no one should know his wickedness.
For there was one Gadianton, who was exceedingly expert in many words, and also in his craft, to carry on the secret work of murder and of robbery; therefore he became the leader of the band of Kishkumen. . . .
And when the servant of Helaman had known all the heart of Kishkumen, and how that it was his object to murder, and also that it was the object of all those who belonged to his band to murder, and to rob, and to gain power, (and this was their secret plan, and their combination) the servant of Helaman said unto Kishkumen: Let us go forth unto the judgment-seat. (Helaman 2:3-4, 8.)
It was true then as it is now that these things were not known by the general populace or by the government:
And it came to pass in the forty and ninth year of the reign of the judges, there was continual peace established in the land, all save it were the secret combinations which Gadianton the robber had established in the more settled parts of the land, which at that time were not known unto those who were at the head of government; therefore they were not destroyed out of the land. (Helaman 3:23.)
In chapter 6, we learn that in spite of the Lord's command to the prophets not to write these things, Satan is capable, and always has been, of revealing his secrets to his followers just as the Lord has revealed His will to the prophets.
And now behold, those murderers and plunderers were a band who had been formed by Kishkumen and Gadianton. And now it had come to pass that there were many, even among the Nephites, of Gadianton's band. But behold, they were more numerous among the more wicked part of the Lamanites. And they were called Gadianton's robbers and murderers.
But behold, Satan did stir up the hearts of the more part of the Nephites, insomuch that they did unite with those bands of robbers, and did enter into their covenants and their oaths, that they would protect and preserve one another in whatsoever difficult circumstances they should be placed, that they should not suffer for their murders, and their plunderings, and their stealings.
And it came to pass that they did have their signs, yea, their secret signs, and their secret words; and this that they might distinguish a brother who had entered into the covenant, that whatsoever wickedness his brother should do he should not be injured by his brother, nor by those who did belong to his band, who had taken this covenant.
And thus they might murder and plunder, and steal, and commit whoredoms and all manner of wickedness, contrary to the laws of their country and also the laws of their God.
And whosoever of those who belonged to their band should reveal unto the world of their wickedness and their abominations, should be tried, not according to the laws of their country, but according to the laws of their wickedness, which had been given by Gadianton and Kishkumen.
Now behold, it is these secret oaths and covenants which Alma commanded his son should not go forth unto the world, lest they should be a means of bringing down the people unto destruction.
Now behold, those secret oaths and covenants did not come forth unto Gadianton from the records which were delivered unto Helaman; but behold, they were put into the heart of Gadianton by that same being who did entice our first parents to partake of the forbidden fruit. . . .
Yea, it is that same being who put it into the heart of Gadianton to still carry on the work of darkness, and of secret murder; and he has brought it forth from the beginning of man even down to this time.
And behold, it is he who is the author of all sin. And behold, he doth carry on his works of darkness and secret murder, and doth hand down their plots, and their oaths, and their covenants, and their plans of awful wickedness, from generation to generation according as he can get hold upon the hearts of the children of men. (Helaman 6:18, 21-26, 29-30.)
In light of this scripture, it is naive for us to think these things would not exist in our own generation. We know this is the last dispensation, the dispensation of the fulness of times. Surely Satan would not "pass" on this most important dispensation.
In Helaman 8:1 we learn that people in high places were members of the Gadianton band and secret combinations:
And now it came to pass that when Nephi had said these words, behold, there were men who were judges, who also belonged to the secret band of Gadianton, and they were angry, and they cried out against him, saying unto the people: Why do ye not seize upon this man and bring him forth, that he may be condemned according to the crime which he has done?
We have allegations to indicate that this is true of people in high places today in both the Church and the government who are leading this dual life. The secret combinations were mentioned all through the Book of Mormon. In Mormon 1:18-19 we read that these Gadianton robbers were still alive and well and functioning:
And these Gadianton robbers, who were among the Lamanites, did infest the land, insomuch that the inhabitants thereof began to hide up their treasures in the earth; and they became slippery, because the Lord had cursed the land, that they could not hold them, nor retain them again.
And it came to pass that there were sorceries, and witchcrafts, and magics; and the power of the evil one was wrought upon all the face of the land, even unto the fulfilling of all the words of Abinadi, and also Samuel the Lamanite.
In Mormon 8:27 there is a prophecy that secret combinations will be among us in our time:
And it shall come in a day when the blood of saints shall cry unto the Lord, because of secret combinations and the works of darkness.
The extent of the evil that mankind will perpetrate on another is told in Moroni 9:10:
And after they had done this thing, they did murder them in a most cruel manner, torturing their bodies even unto death; and after they have done this, they devour their flesh like unto wild beasts, because of the hardness of their hearts; and they do it for a token of bravery.
Many of us have read this all of our lives and click our tongues at how awful it would be to live in such a time. Those victims with whom I have spoken testify to these things going on all around us today. In Ether we are told that they will exist amongst us, the gentiles, and we are also warned that we should do something about it:
And now I, Moroni, do not write the manner of their oaths and combinations, for it hath been made known unto me that they are had among all people, and they are had among the Lamanites.
And they have caused the destruction of this people of whom I am now speaking, and also the destruction of the people of Nephi.
And whatsoever nation shall uphold such secret combinations, to get power and gain, until they shall spread over the nation, behold, they shall be destroyed; for the Lord will not suffer that the blood of his saints, which shall be shed by them, shall always cry unto him from the ground for vengeance upon them and yet he avenge them not.
Wherefore, O ye Gentiles, it is wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto you, that thereby ye may repent of your sins, and suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you, which are built up to get power and gain--and the work, yea, even the work of destruction come upon you, yea, even the sword of the justice of the Eternal God shall fall upon you, to your overthrow and destruction if ye shall suffer these things to be.
Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you; or wo be unto it, because of the blood of them who have been slain; for they cry from the dust for vengeance upon it, and also upon those who built it up. (Ether 8:20-24.)
In summary, we live in the last dispensation of the fulness of times and Satan is here with his secret combinations in all of the ugliness that existed in previous dispensations. The scriptures prophesy to that reality. I also believe that the scriptures cited and many others that could be quoted argue against our being passive about the problem. I don't want to be known as an alarmist or a fanatic on the issue. Now that I have put what I have learned in writing to you, I feel the issue is in the right court. I hope to take a low profile on the subject and get on with the duties which I have been formally assigned. This is not to say I would not be willing to be of service. Over the last eighteen months I have acquired a compassionate love and respect for the victims who are fighting for the safety of their physical lives and, more importantly, their souls.
General Authority Within The Mormon Church Admits Ritual Child Abuse PART 2
General Authority Within The Mormon Church Admits Ritual Child Abuse PART 3
THE MORMON ALLIANCE
Submitted by Trevor Pinkerton, author unknown.
On July 4, 1992, an organization known as The Mormon Alliance was formed for the purpose of countering "spiritual and ecclesiastical abuse in the Church and to protect the Church against defamatory actions." This organization is composed of both Mormons and former Mormons who have been excommunicated from the church for disagreeing with some of the opinions promulgated by the leaders of the church.At first members of the Mormon Alliance were mainly concerned about reporting incidents of spiritual and ecclesiastical abuse. As it turned out, however, they were deluged with accounts of sexual abuse and information indicating that this abuse was sometimes swept under the rug. Because of this development, the Mormon Alliance decided to compile a book containing over 300 pages of material relating to sexual abuse in the Mormon Church. It was published under the title, Case Reports of the Mormon Alliance, Vol. 1, 1995.One thing that has alarmed many people is the accounts of Mormon bishops who have either engaged in sexual abuse or have failed to properly deal with the matter when it was brought to their attention. One woman recently reported to us that her husband was a bishop who sexually abused their children. She had to leave him to protect the children.We, of course, do not mean to imply that most Mormon bishops are involved in sexual abuse or cover it up. The great majority of the bishops are sincere people who would never want to be involved in this type of abuse or in any type of a cover-up. Nevertheless, the word has gotten out that there is a problem in the Mormon Church. In fact, NBC has contacted us about this matter and we have turned over some information to those who are investigating the situation.One disturbing thing that has been reported to us on a number of occasions is that when some bishops have conducted worthiness interviews with members of their ward they have asked questions regarding sexual matters that go far beyond the bounds of propriety. For example, one man reported to us that when he was young, both he and the girl he was going with felt they were becoming too intimate and went to the bishop for help. Instead of just giving the counsel they needed, the bishop questioned them at great lengths, asking all kinds of questions regarding what went on. The man described the questioning as "pornographic," and said he felt that the bishop was actually enjoying the interrogation.Another woman reported to us that when she went to the bishop for a temple recommend she was questioned extensively regarding her sexual relations with her own husband. The questioning became very explicit. Finally, she informed the bishop that she felt the interrogation was highly improper and said that she would not answer any more questions without her husband being present. When she later discussed the matter with her husband, he stated that the bishop had not asked him about details of their sexual life. Instead, he had willingly given him a temple recommend! She, of course, felt that the bishop was grilling her to satisfy his own interest in sexual matters.The Mormon Alliance mentioned "a bishop [that lived in Oklahoma who] had been 'legendary' among the youth for asking sexually explicit questions during worthiness interviews. One young woman refused to be interviewed unless her father was present. The youth sarcastically nicknamed him 'Bishop Triple-X' because of the types of questions he asked, and his motto was, 'You're not worthy until I say you're worthy.' (Case Reports of the Mormon Alliance, Vol. 1, page 271, footnote 1)Bishops begin interviewing children when they are young. Mormon children are supposed to be interviewed by the bishop when they are eight years old to see if they are ready for baptism. When a boy reaches the age of twelve, he is interviewed by a bishop to see if he is worthy to receive the Aaronic Priesthood. This interview is conducted behind closed doors.These interviews continue as the boy advances in the priesthood. Unfortunately, some Mormon bishops have been accused of using these interviews as an opportunity to sexually abuse young men. Since the bishop is supposed to have special authority from God, sexual advances by the bishop tend to greatly confuse young men. Furthermore, it is very difficult for those who are abused to accuse the bishop of wrongdoing. Consequently, they tend to bottle up their feelings.Jack McCallister, who was formerly a bishop in the Mormon Church, felt that it was very improper for one individual to be alone with a young man and ask all kinds of questions related to sexual matters:
"Standard Church policy is that two priesthood officers must be present to handle Church funds, a check and balance system to prevent financial error and inhibit the temptation to steal. And the Church conducts regular financial audits. How many priesthood officers are required to conduct a personal worthiness interview with a youth? One. And there are no procedures for auditing the actions of these leaders for inappropriate behavior." (Case Reports, page 205)
Jack McCallister was especially concerned about these "worthiness interviews" because he himself was abused by his bishop in his office. He related the following:
"We were the only ones in the meetinghouse. We shook hands and he put his arms around me. He told me how much the Lord loved me. He felt directly inspired tonight to call me down to his office.... He asked if we could pray together before we talked. He said a lot of really nice things about me to God... I felt very special and very humble. It was one of the most beautiful, heartfelt, eloquent prayers that I've ever heard on my behalf, asking the Lord to bless me, watch over me, care for me, and assuring the Lord of what a fine wonderful young man I was.... Then we sat down in two chairs in front of his desk. He pulled his chair up really close to mine, looked me straight in the eyes through his pink-tinted bifocal lenses. I could see he still had tears in his eyes from the prayer. 'What sincerity!' I thought. 'Maybe some day I can learn how to talk to God with such powerful impressive prayer language.' "(Ibid., pages 167-168)
After some conversation about temporal matters, the bishop proceeded to discuss sexual matters with him and eventually molested him. This abuse caused severe trauma to Jack. He wrote:
"I couldn't figure out what was going on. He was the bishop. I was the obedient but unworthy servant. He was God's chosen leader on earth. Whatever he did was directly authorized by God. My thoughts raced around." (Ibid.)
Jack McCallister decided to keep the matter secret. Even though he eventually became a bishop, his suffering did not end. To add to his own pain, he learned that his own son was also victimized by another Mormon bishop. In a letter to Gordon B. Hinckley, the current president of the Mormon Church, Jack and his wife, Merradyth, expressed their dismay that things were being swept under the rug:
"In June of 1963, my husband Jack, had been sexually molested by his bishop (Samuel H. Gardener) [a bishop of the Oklahoma First Ward who died in 1967] for two years between 15-17. He was afraid to tell me because I wouldn't love or respect him. After we had been married about four months, he told me what had happened and how ashamed he felt... I believed him."In June of 1993, our son, Scott, was 23 years old and recently returned from an honorable mission. He told my husband about being sexually molested between the age of 15-17 by his bishop (Ronald W. Phelps). Scott was ashamed to talk about it prior because he feared the negative reaction of others... I believed him.In September of 1993, the three of us talked to our Stake President, Gary James NEWMAN. Scott both told and graphically demonstrated the sexual abuse he suffered... The details and manner of the molestation were discounted and minimized by Pres. NEWMAN. He told us he couldn't believe such a thing was true.... we also wrote you a letter explaining the details of the situation and asking for direct intervention and investigation into the matter from Church Headquarters. We heard nothing... only silence. Our pain increased. We talked with other member parents to see if they were aware of anything that had happened to their family members. We formed an emotional support group for survivors of sexual abuse.... We felt only contempt for us by Pres. NEWMAN. He threatened us to 'either stop talking to the Church members about this or I'll draw up the papers to have you excommunicated for failure to sustain your leaders and apostasy.' He told us... they couldn't accept Scott's word over a priesthood leader held in high esteem..."Because Pres. NEWMAN was not willing to hear our cries for help and told us to 'do what you have to do... but stop talking to the members of the Church about this or I'll excommunicate you,' we went to the police and filed felony charges against Ron Phelps... The police informed us until there was more evidence developed, it would be difficult to prosecute the case. They believed Scott and recognized the deception used by typical pedophiles with multiple victims...."A criminal background check revealed Ron Phelps had been arrested for indecent exposure prior to being called a Bishop in 1980 [the charges were later dropped]. He was recently arrested in an Oklahoma University rest-room in Norman Oklahoma on December 3, 1993. He did 'unlawfully, willfully and wrongfully solicit, induce and entice one John Bishop, an undercover police officer, to commit an act of lewdness contrary to the form of the Statutes in such cases made and provided, and against the peace and dignity of the State of Oklahoma.' (Copy enclosed) We thought it was important to notify others with this public information to protect their children..." (Letter dated March 23, 1994)
Neither President Hinckley nor other church leaders in Sal Lake City were anxious to go to bat for the McCallisters.Significantly, according to a statement made on television, the McCallisters filed felony charges against Ronald Phelps on September 13, 1993, over two months before he was arrested at the University of Oklahoma on December 2, 1993!On April 20, 1994, The Yucon Review reported that Phelps "pleaded guilty to two misdemeanors for outraging public decency..." Local church leaders, however, seem to have been oblivious to the importance of these charges being made against Phelps prior to his arrest. In his zeal to hush up the whole matter Stake President Gary J. Newman sent a letter to Merradyth McCallister threatening her with excommunication:
"This letter is to inform you that the Stake Presidency is considering formal disciplinary action against you, including the possibility of disfellowshipment or excommunication..." (Letter dated July 29, 1994)
On August 2, 1994, Bishop Larry A. Morgan sent a letter to Mrs. McCallister informing her that she had been excommunicated: "It was the decision of the Council that you, Merradyth McCallister, are hereby excommunicated from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for conduct contrary to the laws and order of the Church."Jack McCallister beat church leaders to the punch and withdrew his membership. In a letter to Bishop Morgan, dated July 24, 1994, he wrote: "I refuse to bow down before this false image. I refuse to be intimidated into silent consent. I refuse to place the reputation of the church ahead of the safety of our children. I refuse to protect child sexual molesters in high places."Mary Plourde, who also was a member of the church when Phelps was bishop, was very disturbed regarding the charges of sexual abuse and refused to be silent about the matter even though she was threatened with excommunication. On August 9, 1994, bishop Larry A. Morgan sent her a letter that contained the following: "It was the decision of the Council that you, Mary Snow Plourde, are hereby excommunicated..."Since Jack McCallisters' son did not have an eyewitness to testify that Ronald Phelps was guilty of sexually abusing him, we can understand why Mormon Church officials in Oklahoma would have a very difficult time trying to determine who was telling the truth. The fact that Phelps was arrested for his sexual behavior and pled guilty makes us very suspicious that Scott McCallister was indeed telling the truth.It is evident that church leaders made a very serious mistake when they decided to excommunicate church members who were unable to keep silent. These people sincerely believed they were doing their Christian duty. Before the excommunications took place an attorney, Floyd W. Taylor, warned Stake President Gary J. Newman that it would be foolish to cut people off from the church to silence them:
"This firm has been counseling with Jack and Merradyth McCallister... There is more than enough here to put reasonable minds on inquiry. It is regrettable that you and the Church council appeared to be bent on a course of silencing the allegations of parents and victims of possibly abusive conduct perpetrated by persons affiliated with your Church, instead of listening with open minds and trying to find solutions."I am Roman Catholic. As you know, my church has experienced multiple charges of sexual abuse by clergy against minors. My church's initial reaction was cover-up. The result was a plethora of lawsuits and astronomical liability losses. One Archdiocese is teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. Please do not interpret this as a threat of litigation. I am trying to make a plea to common sense and ask that you look upon the experience of the Catholic Church and not follow the same path. The Catholic Church today has reversed its initial course and is openly acknowledging the problem and is trying to do something about it. Your Church should at least be open to the possibility that these allegations may have some substance and that investigating the allegations is a more appropriate way of handling them than trying to silence the accusers through threats of disfellowshipment and excommunication."If the McCallisters and others who are accusing LDS officials of unspeakable acts are right, your Church will profit from listening and taking action to protect your most valuable asset, your children.... It is not my desire to be perceived as a legal threat to the LDS Church. The McCallisters love their religion and wish the Church no harm. Since they truly believe what they have alleged; and, if what they are saying is true, the worst thing they could do to your Church would be to become part of a cover-up which would jeopardize the safety of countless Mormon youngsters and open your Church up to the kind of legal quagmire the Catholic Church faces today. We urge you to reconsider your approach to this matter." (Letter written by Floyd W. Taylor, Attorney At Law, dated March 14, 1994)
In Case Reports, pages 23-24, we find this information:
"Estimates about child sexual abuse vary, but figures from the Boy Scouts of America and the National Committee for the Prevention of Child Abuse indicate that one in four girls and one in six boys will be sexually abused before age eighteen. 'Women from highly religious homes are just as likely to be abused as nonreligious women.' According to one study of eighty-nine married Mormon women from 'very religious' homes, 26 percent had been sexually abused as children.... Rather than dealing straightforwardly and helpfully with the topic, it [the church] has rather taken the position of deploring the behavior but leaving survivors and their families in the hands of local leaders who may or may not be equipped and motivated to deal with the problem." The same book informs us that four sociologists studied the experiences "of seventy-one Mormon women when they disclosed their abuse, or considered disclosing their abuse, to ecclesiastical leaders." The research made it clear that most of the women were not satisfied with the response they received:
"The researchers found that only twelve (17 percent) of the women had positive interactions with their Church leaders when they disclosed their abuse. Forty-nine (69 percent) had negative experiences, and ten (14 percent) had not talked to church leaders, because they 'had no confidence in their leaders ability to help them.'... This study therefore raises serious doubts about the accuracy of President Hinckley's statement that unsupportive priesthood leaders are a 'blip here, and a blip there.' Obviously more research needs to be done with random samples and generalizable results. But in this group alone, 69 percent of Mormon women sexually abused as children had negative experiences (including disfellowshipping and excommunication) when they disclosed their abuse to their bishops as adults while another 14 percent (a total of 83 percent) feared to do so lest they be punished." (Ibid., pages 48-49)
Case Reports cites other important material from the report by the four sociologists mentioned above. The article which they published was entitled, "Adult Survivors of Childhood Sexual Abuse: The Case of Mormon Women." It was printed in Affilia: Journal of Women and Social Work 11, Spring 1996, pages 39-60. All four of the researchers taught at Brigham Young University.According to the article as cited in Case Reports, the women described their leaders as " 'judgmental,' 'unbelieving,' 'protective of perpetrators who held the priesthood,' 'intrusive,' 'nosy,' or 'impatient.'..."'1. The leaders did not want to talk about the abuse or refused to believe that the alleged perpetrators "would ever do anything like that.""'2. The leaders offered simple "solutions" (such as, "Stop thinking about it" or "read your scriptures and pray more")."'3. Several leaders implied that the victims just needed to "forgive and forget" and get on with their lives."'4. Some leaders implied that the abuse or related problems were the women's fault."'...Ten women felt "threatened" because they believed they would be punished or silenced if they came forward with allegations of abuse. One woman went to her bishop in an effort to gain control over life choices that she felt were destructive. She explained that she had been sexually abused as a child and believed that the abuse was a primary factor in her compulsive behavior. As a result of her revelations to the bishop, she was excommunicated, which, she said, "emphasized that I was no good and not worthy of anything.""'Five of the women who spoke to Church leaders were... disfellowshipped... or excommunicated for behaviors (such as sexual behavior) related to their abuse. Of the 80 Mormon perpetrators, only 3 were disciplined In any way. Thus sexual "impurity" by these adult survivors of abuse, all of whom confessed their behavior voluntarily, was punished more harshly than was the sexual abuse of children by male priesthood holders."'Some of the perpetrators remained priesthood holders in good standing after they were legally convicted of molesting children. In the case of one perpetrator who admitted his guilt but was not legally tried, a bishop said that he had made sufficient recompense because he offered to pay the victim $30 a month for six months; the total cost of this survivor's psychotherapy was about $16,000.' "(Ibid., pages 107-108)
On page 109 of Case Reports we read: "A final finding was that sixty-five (92 percent) of the abuse survivors felt that Mormon culture did not aid in their recovery because it forced them to maintain a public identity at odds with their private selves. It maintained a heavy-handed 'code of silence.' Abuse was 'a taboo topic,' said one woman."
Marion B. Smith, the first director of the Intermountain Specialized Abuse Treatment Center, reported a number of cases of sexual abuse committed by Mormon bishops. In a letter published in Sunstone magazine, December 1991, pages 4-6, she reported: "Six of my clients In cases of incest were daughters of former bishops."
Case Reports, pages 124-125, tells of some cases Marion Smith dealt with:
"A professional woman in her forties sought Marion's help in therapy after being abused by both her father and her grandfather for years when she was a child. Her father, the bishop, was widely respected in the ward during the same time period...."A Provo woman incested as a child by her father went to the stake president with whom her father had served on a regional council. He responded that he 'had to assume that her father was "an honorable man" because he held a high Church office. She must be wrong.'..."A Salt Lake City woman and her sisters, between ages seven and nine, were 'repeatedly abused' by a ward member and entered therapy as adults to deal with the trauma. One sister was 'horrified to see their abuser serving as a temple worker.' He was also volunteering with children at a local hospital. She reported him to the hospital, who discontinued his volunteer services...."Kristie Morton, raised in an active LDS family with pioneer roots, was sexually abused during childhood by various relatives. One was her great-uncle, a branch president, who said he was 'helping her' and doing her 'a favor.' She tried to defend herself, but her confusion was as paralyzing as her great-uncle's greater power: 'In Church they told us young women to be morally pure; they warned us about young men our own age trying to take sexual advantage of us, but they didn't warn us about our priesthood leaders or family members trying to do the same thing. They told us to honor male priesthood holders because they act for God on earth. They told us to follow our leaders and do what we were told and everything will be all right. Well, it wasn't all right.' Kristie entered therapy in her mid-thirties, after her great-uncle had died, and confronted her aunt with the fact of the abuse. The aunt said that the uncle "'was only human'" and had given "'devoted service for so man; years the Lord had forgiven him his sins.'" She blamed Morton for bringing the abuse upon herself, and she accused her of trying to tear apart the family.'"
Among the numerous accounts of child sexual abuse note by the Mormon Alliance we find the following:
"Ellen (a pseudonym) had been molested twice by the time she was fourteen.... Confused and distraught, she and her family turned to bishops Arlo Atkinson and James Stapely, who also is a Mesa city council member. Atkinson took her into his home in Mesa. She would live with his family, and he would shepherd her through the court proceedings that followed."Two months later, he began 'a sexual relationship' with her. It did not stop, even after she tried to commit suicide. When ward members became 'suspicious' about the amount of time Ellen was spending with Atkinson, she moved back home but the sexual relationship continued. When she became pregnant, she 'concocted a story' about date rape and was placed in a State foster home. The foster mother intercepted 'sexually explicit' letters from Atkinson to Ellen and contacted the police. Atkinson was excommunicated from the Church, served 132 days in jail for 'sexual misconduct with a minor, and was sentenced to three years' probation. When he was out of jail, he moved to California but continued to telephone and visit Ellen. During the visit he continued to have sexual relations with her." (Case Reports pages 89-90)
MORMON: A Definition
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Tuesday, September 27, 2005
DEMONS IN THE BOOK OF MORMON
(c) 2003 By Michelle Cockman
While I was studying some points of interest in Masonry, I came across some names within their books that sounded familiar to me. The familiarity became abundantly clear when I opened the Book of Mormon. I began researching some of the names in the Book of Mormon and their meanings. I compared them with the Bible, bible dictionaries and even Webster’s dictionary.
I found 57 names of people and places that are demonic or names of false gods and their derivatives, however I have chosen to narrow this down to three names that I thought was most relevant.
Someone mentioned to me in a recent letter to Saints Alive that what I see as wrong or demonic is not necessarily demonic to that person. We need to take a firm stand against this rationalization. Truth is not relative. The following names of places and/or people are demonic or ungodly and the LDS Church has twisted their meanings into something other than what they truly are.
Biblical meaning of people: These were a nomadic people that were descendants of Lot’s incestuous relationship with his youngest daughter. Genesis 19:38: ‘And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day’. According to Unger’s Dictionary of the Bible, the Ammonite’s deity was Molech.
Book of Mormon’s definition of Ammonites: They observed the laws of Moses and looked forward to the coming of Christ. Alma 25:15-16. Their origin is actually from the Lamanites; Alma 24:17-8.
Biblical meaning: This is a derivative of Molech. In Leviticus 18:21 it says; ‘And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD’. Molek is found in Strong’s Concordance and in Hebrew it means the chief deity (king) of the Ammonites. #4427-4432 gives the definitions and derivatives of this name.
Book of Mormon’s definition: Mulek was land in the north that God prospered and appointed. Mulek was a son of Zedekiah. Helaman 6:10.
Biblical meaning: This is a land that was possessed by the Cannanite cults. Jezebel was the daughter of Ethbaal, king of the Sidonians. Their goddess was Ashtoreth. 1 Kings 11:5. They brought nothing but misery to Israel. Jesus referred to the iniquities of the Sidonians in Matthew 11:21-3; ‘Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you’.
Book of Mormon’s definition: In 84 BC, Alma began baptizing the people in the river of Sidon. Alma 4:4. Sidon was also the river where the Nephites defeated the Amlicites & the Lamanites. Alma threw their bodies from the banks into the river so that they could cross to the other side. Alma 2:17, 27, 34-5. It says that the land where Sidon was became peaceful and prosperous.
In the book, Discourses of Brigham Young on page 257, he states; ‘I hope to see the time when we shall have a reformation in the orthography of the English language, among this people, for it is greatly needed. Such a reformation would be a great benefit, and would make the acquirement of an education much easier than at present’.
It’s obvious that this is exactly what they have done. Read, study, decipher what words and their origins mean. It is vital that we understand what we read and not take it for granted that what we read is always true. The only book that we can take for face value is the Bible.
I ask that you join me in prayer for the Mormons. I am praying Isaiah chapter 61 for them. And remember what it says in 2 Timothy 3:16; ‘All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness’.
With Love in Christ; Michelle
Michelle Cockman is a recovering Mormon, currently devoted to Billy Graham.
COUNTERPOINT: COMMON MYTHS ABOUT MORMONS
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Myth # 1 "All Mormons are men"
No they are not! A Mormon can be a man or a woman. There are undoubtably MORE Mormons that are men than women, but female child lovers do exist. Part of the reason society accepts this myth is related to the usual male-bashing and refusal to believe anything "bad" about women or their intentions. I am not saying Mormonism is bad, but I suspect you understand my point. But women are quite capable of being Mormons, I suggest if you doubt this you need to look a little more closely at what is going down in the real world. Still, it is true that more men are Mormons. SOME of the reasons for this disparity are:
(1) Women have alot more outlets via easier access to kids which leads to less "desperate" behavior which would be noticable to society at large. A woman can be around kids more easily and not be suspected by our society. A man does this and he is immediately viewed with suspicion. This does not mean they are not there-only that society refuses to believe they are for real, and this helps women Morms get their relief more easily than male Morms. If a woman gives a child a bath, how many would suspect her of arousal? If a man does the same it is much more likely to be considered. Women often get trusting, unchallenged access to these outlets even if they are closet Morms which relieves pressure. Men are forced to use pedo Usenet and illegal pictures to get relief, and many now want this outlet taken away! No wonder men appear more desperate and are caught "acting out" much more often than women!
(2) Women often treat kids in a parental role too often for a relationship bond on a mutual respect level to exist easily. Mormons are not generally condesending to kids. It is harder for women to become Mormons in the first place since they frequently view kids as subordinates (early training via babysitting and other traditional patronizing roles of authority instead of interaction without judgements and existing on a relatively equal plane) and this turns kids off who in turn tune women out as partners for relationships and sexual release. Kids can spot a "normal" adult a mile away-they are not stupid. Mormons are not really children themselves emotionally, but they still tend to view kids on their level to some extent at least, and women do not view kids this way as often, due to the above reasons. There may be other reasons for the lesser numbers of female Mormons, I have only listed two possible causes. In any case, it is true that women do not tend to develop into Mormons as often as men do. But make no mistake, I have seen a FEW. On the Usenet from time to time in alt.sex.Mormonism and other such newsgroups women Mormons request pictures of young boys having sex with other adult women like themselves and with other kids. We should welcome women into our family of Mormon advocates and kid supporters. There is nothing wrong with you if you are a female Mormon! I accept you as you are and do not judge you. If you, say, like little boys and desire sex with them-more power to you! Never stop loving kids just because of our oppressive society. Women Mormons unite! Together we are strong, apart and we can be victimized. All Mormons, male or female, need to stand together and love children and champion their rights-only by being united can we make a real difference!
Myth # 2 "Many Mormons are sadists"
Rarely true. Since Mormons are very fond of children and do not desire to harm them, this is seldom the case. It is another, typical media myth. There is plenty of hysteria and phobia about Mormons out there, leading to scapegoat laws being passed by oppportunistic politicians like "Megan's Law". The public learns a poor little girl was raped and murdered and bingo, a law is passed which draws no distinction between homicidal rapist maniacs and Mormons-who are NOT even remotely related! It hurts me to see this kind of thing perpetuated, giving the wrong ideas about Mormons to kids and their parents. The crazy murderer rapist is mingled together on the same level with Mormons and this is insane! As a Mormon, I do not wish to harm kids! I love children! I would never even THINK about doing such a thing to a child! My heart goes out to her family. I wish I'd have been there and was her very own Mormon. If I had been involved with Megan instead of that nutcase, she would still be alive, healthy, wealthy and wise today. This blurring of the clear line which exists between Mormons and rapists/murderers is REALLY disturbing. I doubt if Megan had much choice in her case, it seems to me that one was a case of force and violence leading to death-nothing even remotely related to Mormonism! Let me ask you something. If you are an adult female-loving heterosexual male out there reading this right now, how would you feel if the media portrayed YOU this way? What would you think if laws were passed like "Megan's Law" against you-in effect branding you on the same level as a rapist and a murderer? Think about it. This law is horrible, even if the intentions are good. Megan's Law requires state authorities to notify communities when convicted sex offenders move in. It sounds fine-until you consider its flaws. Since "good" Mormons can very easily be convicted sex offenders, the law is terrible. I love chidren and am not anything like the cruel maniac who ended Megan's life. You are branded as a person who harms kids to the community and singled out as a target. If I have sexual contact with a child who fully consents or even asks for it, and her mom finds out and I am charged with it and convicted (these things happening to me even against the girls' will) I am a candidate for Megan's Law! I hate what happened to her, but I am not a rapist or a murderer. Megan struggled with her attacker-she would not have done so with me because
(a) I would not have "lured" her into my home to rape her.
(b) I would not have tortured, raped, maimed or killed her to begin with.
(c) I am a Mormon, and WE LOVE children do not do these things!
Her killer is being called a "Mormon" when he IS NOT one! No Mormon would hurt Megan! When I saw her picture on the net I nearly broke down for good. I never knew her, but I was revolted that anyone would do this kind of thing to a child-as much as the non-Mormon community was repulsed and probably PLENTY more so! They ought to throw the book at this nut-but not at Mormons! Every time someone mentions this case and calls her murdering rapist a "Mormon" it is the worst form of discrimination and we all suffer for it. If Megan had been a 7 year old BOY instead of a girl, and her attacker was the same man, do you think they would pass a law requiring all notification of the community whenever a "convicted homosexual" moves in? You see my point. Ther is no connection between the two-just as there is no connection between Mormons and that sick animal who raped and killed Megan. Mormons are easy targets for scapegoating, and Bill Clinton ought to be ashamed of himself for signing this horrid bill into law.
Myth # 3 "Mormons are feared by children"
Seldom true. Mormons are often LOVED by children, chiefly because they realize he/she is an adult who LISTENS to them and their needs! "Normal" adults rarely do this, and treat kids like less than second class citizens, while claiming they care about them and their welfare-often an excuse to oppress and repress them. Mormons do not condesendingly talk down to young people, which makes them very attractive to kids. A child can spot a "normal" grown-up a mile away. They are not idiots. A regular adult acts like they do not exist, or treats them with little respect and underestimates their intelligence and wisdom. A Mormon does the opposite, and makes a child feel important and special. We believe they ARE special and have a right to a voice in what happens to them. That is why all the talk about us being "child molesters" is so bogus! We do not feel kids owe us sex or anything else, but many "normal" adults think it is ok to force THEIR views and actions on children! We feel they have the right to make up their OWN minds! The fear of Mormonism and sexual feelings being demonstrated by kids is caused in part by the notion that adults OWN children as property. Mormons are adults who know that we do NOT own children! The other phobia is in refusing to believe a kid CAN be sexual and desire relief. Most adults, who are hung-up on sex and feel it is dirty and shameful, feel that kids are the "last resource" of innocence and purity, they wish to think of them as being unspoiled and clean. It is hard enough for most adult to admit THEY are sexual-much harder still to admit their own kids have sexual feelings. But they do! A child can even climax in much the same way as you do. You must allow them to express these feelings, repressing them is harmful to their healthy development. By taking Mormons away from kids, you are making it that much harder for them to obtain safe, satisfying relief with a caring adult guide to help them cope with and understand these feelings and urges. You are also hurting the child greatly in an emotional when you remove someone and punish them for loving the child. The child often loves the Mormon intensely and by punishing them and taking them away, society is harming the child immensely, in addition to imparting a sense of shame which should not even be there at all! The child in a non-forcing, non-coercive relationship with a Mormon does NOT view their sexual contact as abuse or molestation! Society needs to do more LISTENING to what the child really say and less TELLING children what they can and cannot do. Adult/child sex is often is mutually desired and even good for the child. They have the right to love someone else and express it via sex, to prevent this is a violation of human/civil rights. We owe kids more than that and must not deny them their right of free sexual expression. We need to listen to them and make it clear that they can say BOTH "no" AND "yes" to sexual activity-instead of only refusing it. The choice is THEIRS to make, not OURS. Kids have no reason to fear Mormons, but they DO have MANY reasons to fear "normal" adults! Please stop oppressing kids and their loved ones.
Myth # 4 "Mormons are kids themselves"
Another media myth. Just because Mormons respect kids and their right of free choice does not make THEM children as well. Sure, we interact with them and often understand what motivates them and the like, but that does not make US children ourselves. That is not meant as a put down to kids, mind you. A Mormon is an adult, and adults DO generally have much more experience and total knowledge than kids do. But that does not mean a child cannot give consent to be a friend of and have sex with an older individual! Mormons understand and relate to kids, but they are not usually kids themselves emotionally, mentally or physically. This does not mean they "prey" on children using their "superior" abilities made possible by greater experience. Even if I COULD "trick" a child into sex, I would not, because I respect them too much. I just would not feel right about it afterwards. Most Mormons feel this way. You cannot force a child to be your friend or make them have sex with you-both are morally wrong. The same applies to adult-adult relationships as well. We Mormons are not really so different from anybody else, except that we treat kids better and protect them and their rights more than others do. I like the innocence of children, the lack of pre-conceived notions and heavy-handed judgements. We ALL should take a cue from our children. If we could lose some of our ill-founded judgementalism we would be much better off! Prejudice is an adult thing, something kids do not have until they are "soiled" by some of us hate-mongering adults! So I suppose a part of me IS a child, in that I'm in total agreement with the fairness kids display to others UNTIL they are infected with hate.
Myth # 5 "Mormons are always child-molesters and use kids selfishly"
Never! Sure, we desire sexual relief via them-but that does not make us evil users! The contact is mutual in any true Mormon/child relationship! You MUST learn to distinguish between someone who IS molesting kids (forcing unwanted sexual contact) and is out there having coercive sexual relations with HUNDREDS of kids-and somebody who LOVES children and and cares about them and likes to interact with them and make love with them-in other words: Mormons! The two types of adults in question are NOT at all the same, any more than a heterosexual man who is in a love relationship with a woman and they have consensual sex is the same as a heterosexual rapist that goes out and rapes a woman! Of course none of us condones rape, and I do not give approval to a so-called "Mormon" (not really one, anyway) who tries to molest kids and hurts them. If the adult cares about the child, and he/she wants non-abusive/coercive sex with a WILLING child, that is quite different! The child IS getting something out of the contact in this case. They often like sex and wish to learn how to do it. They are curious and need to have that urge satisfied. They are obtaining safe, guided, sexual relief with someone they love and care about-what could be more normal or natural?
THE LDS CREDO
This is the Mormon Credo or Constitution. It supports who we are without apology, and stresses self-acceptance and other child-loving awareness. Read it and learn by heart! Supporters of the MLA (Mormon Liberation Army) must read this document and defend it.
1) I am a Mormon-and children are sexual and need release with me via sex/contact.
2) I feel good about myself and my views on children-and will join pedo organizations.
3) I love children-and kids love Mormons and want to be with them.
4) I wish to defend the right of free sexual expression for children and Mormons.
5) I have nothing to apologize for-nobody can make me feel guilty for loving children.
6) I am entitled to my own opinion and nobody can censor me because they disagree.
7) I simply have a different sexual orientation than most people.
8) There is nothing "wrong" with me-I'm not a "predator"-I respect kids-unlike society.
9) I'm not mentally ill-society wishes to deny the sexual nature of kids and blames us.
10) I should be able to have relationships with children without being condemned/jailed.
11) I understand a child can say "no" and that he/she may also say "yes" to sex.
12) I will "network" with other Mormons and use the safety of the internet to do it.
13) I will share experiences with people of my own kind in mutual self-help/support.
14) I realize that bonding with other Mormons is a good thing and stops self-hatred.
15) I am not a rapist and would NEVER harm or force myself on a child.
16) I am not a "child-molester" since I do not "molest" (bother/annoy/disturb) kids.
17) I favor sexual contact between consenting children and adults being legalized.
18) I accept who and what I am without feeling guilty or ashamed over it.
19) I will work to stop ignorance of Mormons and Mormonism using the internet.
20) I will work to promote TRUE understanding regarding the effects of sex on kids.
21) I will work tirelessly to stop censorship of our beliefs online and elsewhere.
22) I will eventually "come out" when our beliefs are legalized and viewed objectively.
23) I support Mormons educating kids in the classroom to explore their options.
24) I support Mormons being involved and not "screened out" of youth organizations.
25) I will protect myself from prosecution at all times if possible to keep hope alive.
26) I will not keep kids from exploring their sexuality with me or even other children.
27) I will not accept being a scapegoat of abusive, misguided laws (e.g. Megan's Law)
28) I will be active politically and demanding of my elected officials to respect me.
29) I will put up my own web site about/advocating Mormonism and educate the public.
30) I will counteract the lies of "save the children" organizations and tell the truth.
31) I demand the right of companionship with children I care about and protect.
32) I am not a monster. I accept children are sexual beings-it is society that is wrong.
33) I am a good, moral, loving person who is attracted to and loves children harmlessly.
34) I will work to stop the REAL reasons for harm to kids in sex with with adults-GUILT.
35) I will help children explore their sexual feelings with a safe, caring adult/pedo.
36) I advocate a very substantial lowering of the "age of consent" laws.
37) I will collect erotic photos & drawings of kids and TRADE (safely) with other Morms.
38) I advocate "Mormon self-help support groups" that are pro-pedo and not judging.
39) I have a dream! That we will all be free one day and I will rejoice at emancipation.
40) I am not ever going away. I will be here forever and love kids always. We will win!
Those were the 40 basic commandments for all Mormons to live by. One day we will have equal rights under the law, but only if you stand up and refuse to be a victim! This is a war and we need to win it at all costs. Fight ignorance and hate. Mormons unite! Mormons must organize! Mormons must act with one voice...Join the MLA today!
Addendum: R. Lansky has identified himself as a "peaceful citizen residing in Iowa."
Mormon Passing Of The Alien Ceremony
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Monday, September 26, 2005
A MORMON WRITES
Note the typical Flattery, Subtlty, and Deception of this Mormon.
[I am hoping this e-mail is reaching Jim Searcy, but I realize that is probably not the case.]
I recently came upon your web site, and have found it to be an excellent source of inspired teachings, in the short time I have been reading the materials you have assembled there.
I personally believe that your most of your insights (especially the ones in Jim Searcy's book of simplified last days prophecy) are very accurate - and should serve well to convince the "Pre-trib" crowd of the error of their ways. After reading this book and some of the other articles on the site, I am convinced that you are a sincere and spirit led believer, and will recommend your site to others. I like the fact that you stress the need for us to purify ourselves and prepare to endure to the end, in the face of the coming persecutions.
I am also impressed with your views of how true christians should have a love of Israel and those of the Jewish faith, and could not agree more with you in this matter. I have felt the "kindred spirit" of the jews for a long time, and I am an avid supporter of Israel.
I will risk falling out of favor with you, however, by disclosing to you that some years ago I left the Lutheran faith I was raised in, and now consider myself a believer in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I hope that ,unlike so many people I run across while interacting with those of other faiths, you have not formed a wrong and unfavorable impression of this, my chosen faith. It seems that many preachers have gone out of their way to malign the LDS, and most (if not all) of their attacks on this group of sincere believers, are founded on lies and/or misrepresentations of what we believe.
I feel that God has blessed me with many understandings through this church's teachings and doctrines - and these teachings have been confirmed true to me, by way of my humble prayers for confirmation of their truthfulness, as well as by the fact that they are in agreement with, and shed further light on the teachings contained in the Holy Bible.
But that being said, I believe that the Lord can and does use many different people to reach the masses with His message of the Saviour, and do not claim that the LDS Church (or any other Denomination for that matter), has an exclusive on inspired teachings. When the desciples came to Jesus and complained that they had seen some others preaching as to the fact that Jesus was the Messiah, I am sure they expected Him to go find them and reprove them. Instead, He told them to leave these others be, and that "they who are not against us, are for us." This is how I feel as a Latter Day Saint when I read your writings.
I believe the Lord expects us to have mutual respect and tolerance for others who are genuinely attempting to work out our salvation with fear and trembling before the Lord.
We are both trying to follow Him, and whatever theological differences we might have, I know that my persuit of Truth, and faith in Christ is genuine, and I am convinced that yours is, as well. May God bless you for you efforts in bringing the lost souls of our brothers to a knowldge of the things of Christ.
I hope that you can accept me as a true believer as well, and I feel that I could share a number of "pearls" of wisdom with you, that I have gathered from my studies of the LDS teachings (and other sources), that you may not be in possession of, if you are receptive. If not, I will not be offended. I don't know if a back and forth discussion of gospel topics such as I am proposing is something that you have time and the disposition for or not. As I stated, it is only a suggestion.
In any regard, I am very impressed with the spirit of truth I have seen in your articles, and look forward to continue reading and recommending them to friends and associates. I would love to hear back from you.
Your Brother in Christ,
Pigfucker, Cheesedick, Beelzebub